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Seasonal closures


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Bengt Lindholm

Planning a trip in the Swiss Alps next summer. But the app uses current status for the passes (open/closed) instead of summer conditions.
Bellinzona - Interlaken via Nufenen & Grimsel passes.


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Bo_ABRP

Status changed to: In progress

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Katya_ABRP

Merged with: Summer roads

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Otto Randøy

I plan a holiday in the alps. But there seems to be no way to get pass roads into the plan. Even if I set departure time to July, the planning uses tunnels, not the mountain pass roads. This is a major problem to me.


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Katya_ABRP

Merged with: No route to waypoint

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Damir Strucic

Route doesn't go to the waypoint. It is a mountain road, it is closed part of the year, but there should be a setting to disregard seasonal closures as that makes future planing impossible.


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MAURO FOCIANI

I am trying to plan a trip from La Thuile (AO) to Tignes by Petit San Bernard. This mountain pass seems impossible in every seasons and with any capacity of battery car.


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Katya_ABRP

Merged with: "Colle del piccolo San Bernardo" impossible to track

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Katya_ABRP

Merged with: Pass (e.g. Timmelsjoch) used in winter season

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Max S

Independent from time of trip passes are used that are closed. For example the Timmelsjoch in the alps is open only between June and Oct. However ABRP sends you there the whole year.


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Paul Anklam

Hello, the route planner does not take into account the Hahntennjoch Pass in Austria. It always builds a route around it.


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Katya_ABRP

Merged with: Hahntennjoch (AT) not plannable

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Katya_ABRP

Hi Paul,

Could you share the link to this plan? You can generate a link by clicking: share > share ABRP link

/Katya


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Max S

Sorry, maybe should be routet to fossgis-routing.


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luc neyrinck

Here are 3 examples of roads with pass that are closed in winter in norway. The departures dates have been changed to summer but still avoids the pass. Please update the investigation status of this issue ? Thanks a lot


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Katya_ABRP

Hi Luc and others,

At the moment we can only create plans based on the current circumstances, and, as you've discovered this becomes problematic when creating plans for the future.

We fully understand the urgency of this but it is a more complex issue to solve and I'm sorry to say that while we'd absolutely want to be able to cater to your needs it'll most likely not be resolved anytime soon.

We'll keep this issue open and with the status 'investigate' as we've gotten no closer to it being resolved.

/Katya


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luc neyrinck

Hello,
I am experiencing the same issue with closed roads in winter : I am planning a trip in norway end of may. roads that are closed in winter are opened again in may but the planner does not allow them eventhough I entered a proper date in the planner. My itinerary is useless as it goes around the roads that I should be able to plan : exemple route 63 trollatigen pass.
Thanks for advising how to calculate properly. Cheers


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ShadowBJ21

Screenshot of a trip that is supposed to go over Gotthard pass (which is closed November - May)


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ShadowBJ21

Same problem. Neither changing date of the trip or disabling live data helps. All passes are ignored (checked for Gotthard, Grimsel, Furka)


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Samuel_ABRP

Status changed to: Investigate

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Bengt Lindholm

The roads I want to use are alpine passes. I set the date to the beginning of September next year, when the travel will take place.
The passes closed for the winter about a week ago. When I planned a trip with another route a few weeks ago it worked since the passes were open then.
A list of opening and closing dates for swiss passes during recent years can be found here:
alpen-paesse.ch/en/alpenpaesse/grimselpass/#downloads
under the link "Öffnung und Schliessung der Alpenpässe PDF (53 KB)".


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Samuel_ABRP

Please provide some coordinates for a closed pass. I want to check the data from OSM. As we get the data from OSM it seems we either do not consider the date correctly if there is a conditional opening time for a road or someone just marked the road as closed on OSM which means we can not do anything about it.


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Samuel_ABRP

Ok i just quickly check myself. There seems to be a conditional access restriction which is not considered correctly. However it seems OSRM does not fully support it yet:
github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/4231

We will check, if there is anything we can do about it.


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Bengt Lindholm

Grimselpass, 3999 Obergoms, Wallis, Schweiz
46.56124, 8.33676
On a side note - the copy function for the position didn't work. Nothing happened. Maybe it's not a copy button?


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Bengt Lindholm

Automatic settings is turned off when trying to plan this route


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Samuel_ABRP

Could you share some details on the closed roads? My guess is that they are marked as closed on OpenStreetMap, but i would like to know if there is a condition on those roads that we do not support. Did you try to set a date in the future for your trip?


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Samuel_ABRP

Hi Bengt,

does it help to disable live traffic?

Best
Samuel