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Stephan Falkenberg |
Connection can be set, Bit the relevant parameters like SoC are not available
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Katya_ABRP
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Katya_ABRP
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Katya_ABRP
Hi all,
We've made several improvements in general with the OBD connection, thus checking in here with you to ask how the connection to the Kia Soul EV is working for you currently?
/Katya
Luis Angelo Bonito
I tried today and looks working well. The degradation concerns are resolved. Thank you!
Stephan Falkenberg
I'll try on friday and come back with the results. Thank you for supporting us!
Stephan Falkenberg
I'll had a nice trip of around 600 km at the weekend and it worked almost flawlessly. Only the error with the degredation of the battery showed up again. The the route could not be calculated because of the wrong detected degradation (it assumed 100%).
In the bottom end of the battery the scaling of the bms is not linear. I think you cannot include this in your calculation, so that the assumed percentage when I arrive is usually not correct, so that I have to calculate a separate buffer. In my drives I can see the nonlinearity very good.
Any ideas to solve this?
Thank you in advance
Stephan
Luis Angelo Bonito
Hi, Today I noticed the OBD is connected but the data was not up to date. Can you please check and verify? Thanks!
Stephan Falkenberg
What I realised, when I tested yesterday was, that the connection is not always working correctly. I had to disconnect the OBD connection, restart the phone (Google Pixel 4+ / Android 13), restart the car, reconnect the obd dongle to make it work.
Then I had a succesful ride with live data via obd.
-> Worked, but nothing I would recommend.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Thanks for letting me know. I tried to disconnect the ODB connection and also unlink from the Apps. It was successfully connected but has no live data.
Stephan Falkenberg
I think there is a problem with detection of the cars sensors. Degradation detection also does not work correct.
And as @Samuel_ABRP mentioned there seemed to be a lot of different PIDs
Luis Angelo Bonito
I am aware of the degradation issue and I turn off the live data. Anyway, I tried again in the afternoon and it works back again. 😉
I hope it will get stable.
Samuel_ABRP
Still a minor change needed, there is no SoH available like on the other HKMC cars, so for now you need to disable the automatic battery degredation.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Noted with Thanks! 👍🏼
Stephan Falkenberg
Thank you so much.
A first try shows SoC correct and the calculation also works on base of the SoC.
Real world test is tbd.
Samuel_ABRP
Status changed to: In progress
Samuel_ABRP
Status changed to: Done
Samuel_ABRP
Support for all Soul EV Variants available now!
Samuel_ABRP
Status changed to: In progress
Samuel_ABRP
Status changed to: Investigate
Samuel_ABRP
Hi everyone,
it seems the older Kia Soul EVs use differen PID values than the newer ones. It was like that already for Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh and 38Kwh. Does anyone of you have insights or information, which PIDs work on the older KIA Souls?
Kia Soul 2019+ should work, we got feedback on that already. So only 2018 and lower should be affected.
Samuel_ABRP
Ok found some pids and updated the Soul 2014/2018 PID lists. So now it should hopefully work (or at least show some data). Could you please try again, if you can get some data?
Luis Angelo Bonito
Super! 👏 Thank you for your swift response. 😊 See attached picture and it now shows SoC data once I do ODB linked but the Current SoC in the routing direction is still not updated.
Could you please check & verify? thank you!😀
Samuel_ABRP
Die you check the blue button next to soc? If not it uses the planned soc. The failed setup most likely means your car does not have the external temp sensor at the same command as the other cars.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Sorry, I am trying to understand the “Blue Button Next to SoC”.
It would be handy to me if you have screenshots.
Samuel_ABRP
You can either enable live data with the toggle in the top that enables all the live data features available for your account and car data or you can individually enable soc and reference consumption to be taken from live car data.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Thanks 🙏 again and we almost there. 😀
I can see now there is a live data but when I put from & to address then there are no route results.😔
See the pictures
Samuel_ABRP
Hard to say, could be settings related. However if no plan shows up after clicking the round blue button it could be another issue. I will close this for now as we have Soul EV support for all variants now. Please check all your settings if they make sense, especially the arrival soc and preferred networks as they can have a big impact on the route. Also make sure the right charger plug is selected in settings. If it does not work on the phone please try it on web and if it still does not work open another issue so we can look into it more in detail.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Thanks again! 👍 I tried to turn off the “Automatic Settings” then it gives routing information. When I put it back then no results.
Please have a look at my setting. I think there are no concerns.
I tried the website and similar concern 😟
Samuel_ABRP
Your arrival soc is quite high with 25/30%. Try to lower it to 10% and see if that changes anything. Maybe the planner thinks it can't find a charger along the route with only 29% usable battery. Or check the avoid criterias in street settings. Normally it should show an error if planning is not possible, but it looks like in some cases it just gives up. We are looking into that too.
Luis Angelo Bonito
I change the destination & charger arrival SoC to 10% as shown picture but the same concerns.
I did quite understand your statement “avoid criteria street setting”?
Samuel_ABRP
Ah it's called road conditions... Btw you don't have to set 15mins on charging overhead as that does not include the drive time but only plug in, authorize, plug out. So normally bigger values are not needed here unless you need to get out in a wheelchair or you have a trailer that you need to disconnect first.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Thank you again! I tried your suggestions and still not able to give routing results.
Here are the pictures but once I turn off the “Automatic setting” it works well.
Samuel_ABRP
Like I said before the route most likely fails silently, that is another bug. Please open a seperate issue so we can easier follow up on that.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Noted and thanks!
Here the report bug
abrp.upvoty.com/b/report-a-bug/no-route-results-when-automatic-setting-is-turn-on
Luis Angelo Bonito
Yesterday it worked well, but today I observed the ODB is connected but the SoC (State of Charge) data is outdated. I am seeing blinking green, red, and blue colors in the Bluetooth symbols while doing the navigation.
I am using Veepeak OBD Check BLE+ Bluetooth 4.0 and iPhone
Samuel_ABRP
Merged with: ODB is Connected but SoC Data is outdated
Luis Angelo Bonito
Similar concerns I had and here is my post link
abrp.upvoty.com/b/report-a-bug/odb-is-connected-but-soc-data-is-outdated
Dom Weaver
Same here - see attachment. But then sometimes it connects and shows it’s linked
but no figures whatsoever.
I can see the SOC information in EVNotify, but ABRP will not pick up the data whatsoever via either EVNotify or the builtin ABRP connection.
Our Leaf works perfectly via LeafSpy so it’s not the dongle.
Samuel_ABRP
We heard from many users with problems on veepeak so far. We never tested it so we don't know if there is anything specific to it. If you want support for a tested and known to be working dongle, i would rather recommend to try one of the listed dongles from here instead:
www.iternio.com/abrp-obd
I use the MacLean mce 200 for example which is quite cheap and works very well.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Hi, I tried the MacLean MCE 200 still no success.
Samuel_ABRP
Did the initial setup work and did you unlink the previous obd connection before setting up the new one?
Luis Angelo Bonito
Yes, I did it but still no success so I was wondering if it really works well on iPhone I also delete the ABRP apps and install them again.
Samuel_ABRP
So does the initial setup work but the connection after that not? Or does the setup also not work?
Which car are you trying to connect to?
Luis Angelo Bonito
The new initial setup is working well but the SoC is still outdated. I attached some pictures and please have a look.
I am using a KIA Soul Ev Car.
Samuel_ABRP
As you can see in the car details page, no data is shown at all which means we don't get any data from the car. So we can't update the soc.
Also the setup shows error, so you should have mention that the setup fails.
It seems the old Kia Soul uses different PID values than the new one. Let me check if I can find anything about it.
Please click on report bug in setup and paste the id here so I can check the log.
Luis Angelo Bonito
Thank you for your swift response 😃
Now I understood well and I tried multiple iPhone devices and I thought that it works on Android phones. 😊
I also found the report bug and here is the link "Kia Soul EV OBD Connection"
(abrp.upvoty.com/b/report-a-bug/kia-soul-ev-obd-connection/?force-redirect-after-login=YWJycC51cHZvdHkuY29t)
I hope will be able to fix it soon because I was not aware that there is a concern after reading this page "Live Data Comparison" (abetterrouteplanner.com/compare/livedata/ )
Thank you for your help! 👍🏼